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Old 10-14-2013, 10:47 AM
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Default Spoilboard cutters

Does anyone have suggestions or comments on spoilboard cutters?

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Old 10-14-2013, 11:00 AM
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I use these bits http://www.magnate.net/index.cfm?eve...roup&theID=136 the 2" diameter Item # 2706 $37.60
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:10 AM
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I have always used good ole 1.25 " mortise bits the larger diameter cost more and for the few times I needed it I just get a new one annually. Takes a few more minutes to machine, 30.00

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...5&site=ROCKLER

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Old 10-14-2013, 11:13 AM
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:26 AM
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Tim...
My favorites use insert tooling. Especially if you plan on surfacing wood products (vs. MDF etc.) They are a little more going in, but prove to be the best deal over time. I have purchased a couple dozen Magnate bits, and I really like their prices, but in the long run, you need to be careful as their V bits seldom are ground at the advertised angle, and I have also seen inaccuracies in their straight brazed bits also.

Here is a link of my preferred: http://www.toolstoday.com/p-5785-ins...outer-bit.aspx
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I am with Gary on this one. I love insert bits, it will cost you more scratch up front, but the replacement knifes are reasonable and each knife has four sides. I like the Amana 2+2 version of what Gary shows http://www.amanatool.com/cncroutingdetails/rc-2252.html and comes as large as 3.125" US Router Tools also sells insert bits http://www.usroutertools.com/ and you can get a discount from Camaster if you own a CAMaster.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:02 AM
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For insert tooling, also check out www.hersaf.com

I use their 1" cutter a lot.
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I love insert tooling, but you have to buy the quality stuff. The inserts need to be perfectly indexed to the body. I bought some cheap stuff and there was no way to get the inserts lined up correctly, so once I changed inserts the tool never worked properly and I ended up throwing them out.

I've tried the 2+2 spoilboad cutters, as well as the 2 insert cutters. The 2+2 design tends to clog up and burn quickly when surfacing a large top. The more simple 2 insert cutters seem to work better for me. They don't stay sharp for long when surfacing a 4x8 MDF top. I get 2-3 surfaces before rotating my cutters.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:42 PM
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I love insert tooling, but you have to buy the quality stuff. The inserts need to be perfectly indexed to the body. I bought some cheap stuff and there was no way to get the inserts lined up correctly, so once I changed inserts the tool never worked properly and I ended up throwing them out.

I've tried the 2+2 spoilboad cutters, as well as the 2 insert cutters. The 2+2 design tends to clog up and burn quickly when surfacing a large top. The more simple 2 insert cutters seem to work better for me. They don't stay sharp for long when surfacing a 4x8 MDF top. I get 2-3 surfaces before rotating my cutters.
Good to know. I haven't tried my 2+2 yet as I'm still using a 1 1/4" bit I had. I purchased the 3 1/8" is that the one you have? Just wondering if the larger size would clog less?
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:17 AM
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Good to know. I haven't tried my 2+2 yet as I'm still using a 1 1/4" bit I had. I purchased the 3 1/8" is that the one you have? Just wondering if the larger size would clog less?
I have the Amana 1.5". Not impressed with it. The horizontal inserts don't have a way for the chips to clear and they get clogged up and burn. The inserts don't have a positive seat either, so it's very hard to line them up evenly. It cuts about 1/3 of the spoilboard before leaving burn marks (I cut at 600ipm and 18000 rpm). I'd be interested to know how a larger 2+2 cuts.
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