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Old 01-08-2019, 02:43 PM
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I've been running Mozaik for several years now. I looked at some of the Sketchup-based packages when I started, since I'm also comfortable and familiar with Sketchup, but didn't feel at the time that they were really set up for a production shop. Perhaps they're better now. Mozaik does have its quirks, but I find it quick and reasonably easy to set up most of what we do, from kitchens to built-ins to one-offs, and to generate the drawings and reports I need for customers and for the shop. There are still a few pieces of art furniture that I will set up in Sketchup rather than Mozaik, but fewer and fewer over time. Mozaik does do a pretty good job of dumping out a job to Sketchup where I can make it pretty for the customer. Since that's the only thing I do with Sketchup, the fact that changes in Sketchup don't propagate back to Mozaik is not that much of a problem.

What cabinet software you use can turn into a religious discussion. What works for you is best, I suppose. Mozaik works for me. It offers a lot of bang for the buck, has a reasonably active user forum, gets regular updates in the subscription price (3-4 major updates per year and continuous quality improvements between releases), and does things that I'd have to pay $50k+ for in other professional packages.
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:12 AM
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Iíve been using Mozaiksoftware for a couple of years now and am very happy with it. I do a mix of residential and commercial cabinets/Millwork and it works well for both. The fact that it goes from an approved drawings all the way to CNC fabrication is a great time saver. I did take about 6 or 8 hours of online training with them which has long since paid for itself. They helped me set up my construction methods (blind dado) and if I have a question their online forum is a great resource. I am at the verge of switching over to dowel construction because I do a lot of commercial work and dowels will eliminate skinning the finished ends. They have that set up for me also. Regarding the cost, I once heard a guy once say that the monthly fee is still less than a linear foot cost of cabinetry ( Courtesy of Jim McGrew) . When I look at it in these terms then itís a no brainer. From advice on this forum, I started out with Vcarve (which I use everyday) and Cabinetpartspro. I was able to get all my cabinets completed with these two programs. Upgrading to Mozaik was well worth the time and effort. It was the next logical move for me and allowed me to speed up my production as well as provide customer and shop drawings.
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:23 PM
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I used kcd for 12 years for just designing and when I decided to get a cnc I checked with them on the price to go to the cnc version of the software and it was like 12k. So I ended up going with Mozaik. Personally I love the software. Iíve been using it sense may and am still learning on what all it can do. Their optimization saves me several sheets a job which more than pays for the monthly cost. There are tons of training videos that you have access to once you purchase, and the support is top notch. You can purchase Mozaik, I checked on that, itís like 15k if I remember right. Makes more sense to me to rent it per month. Mozaik also has a forum with a lot of smart people on it.
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:27 AM
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So is this info off of their website (FAQs) incorrect?

4) Do I have to pay monthly or can I purchase the software outright?

Our initial purchase option is a 3 month subscription. At the end of the 90 days you will know if the software is right for your business. If so, you can sign up for an annual subscription and continue making the same low monthly payment, or purchase the license outright, or rent it as needed. Your choice.
Either way Ė Mozaikô is here to help you decide what is best for your business.

9) Can I rent the software or do I have to sign a subscription agreement?

After the initial 90 day subscription, you may choose:
a) to subscribe annually (you can pay your subscription fee monthly, quarterly or annually),
b) to purchase your software license(s),
c) to rent on a monthly basis as needed (rental fees are higher than monthly subscription fees)
If you decide to purchase in the future, rental fees are not applied toward purchase,
d) to walk away without further obligation.
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Old 03-07-2019, 06:53 AM
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It appears that you'd need to call them to actually purchase outright. I'd expect it to be at least $5K or more.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:02 AM
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Antone near Charlotte , Moziak is at the Closet Expo at the convention center today and Friday
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:48 PM
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It appears that you'd need to call them to actually purchase outright. I'd expect it to be at least $5K or more.
I emailed them. $17k plus $750 a year for updates and support.

After 125 years you'll start to save on monthly payments and only pay $750 a year for upgrades and support. Lol

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Old 03-11-2019, 03:39 PM
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Actually, if the monthly fee is $125, you'll break even after only 22 years. :p They obviously really want to discourage outright purchases...
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:43 PM
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Actually, if the monthly fee is $125, you'll break even after only 22 years. :p They obviously really want to discourage outright purchases...
Oh right, my number was months. Forgot to go one more step for years. 22 years is much better. Lol
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Old 03-11-2019, 04:05 PM
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Actually after 22 years, you would have paid another $16,500 in yearly support fees. So your break even point would be about 44 years.
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