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Old 06-22-2018, 02:13 PM
SCHEPEBC SCHEPEBC is offline
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Default Oneida dust collecting system opinions

I have been running a harbor freight dust collector and Oneida cyclone for a awhile now and it just doesn't seem to do the job anymore. I have been looking at upgrading to the 5hp Oneida system and was seeing if anyone had one. I might be getting an additional machine soon so I would use this for both of them. Seeing if anyone had luck with them or not. I know baileigh isn't the best brand but they have one also OR if anyone has any recommendations. 95% of what I cut is production plastic like HDPE, UHMW, polycarb with an occasional wood job. Sadly this shop is only single phase so that is the power I need to use.

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Old 06-22-2018, 03:12 PM
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Maybe you have searched for Oneida and found some reading material. If not, here is one to start with that was recent.

http://camheads.org/showthread.php?t=6953

I think my 3hp Oneida is fantastic. Although, I'm not doing much plastics. It really changed the dust cleanliness in the shop when I installed it, versus a little bag machine.
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Old 06-22-2018, 04:29 PM
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I've been an Oneida customer and fan since 2000 and dust collection is "what they do". USA made and very high quality. Talk to them about what you want to accomplish, including what machines over your CNC so they can recommend the best solution that meets the air flow needs of your shop.
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Old 06-22-2018, 06:15 PM
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Seeing if anyone had luck with them or not. I know baileigh isn't the best brand but they have one also OR if anyone has any recommendations.
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Reach out to Bruce Tait Jim. I had a rather lengthy discussion with him recently about his Oneida and left the conversation feeling much better informed. Like you, we have been limping along on HF and before the end of next month, I intend (we all know how that works out sometimes) on putting an end to the limping with a larger upgrade myself.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:20 AM
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Default Dust collection

Like you, I needed a dust collection system and wanted the best around. My situation is I the final install will be in an air conditioned shop and I did not want to dump all the conditioned air outside with just a fan. I did plenty of research and purchased the Oneida Industrial 5 hp 55 gallon system.
I am in the final stages of getting my machine in operation and yesterday I assembled my new dust collector.
It is a three man job minimum and a chain hoist if you have one.
The system looks great but it is not wired yet. I will provide updates as I complete the next few steps.

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Old 06-23-2018, 10:19 AM
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I have the Oneida 5HP Pro Hi Vac in my main shop which is designed for CNC machines, and a 2HP V-System in my smaller shop. While the dust collector itself is of great importance, the design and sizing of your ducting can make or break the overall performance of your system. Contact Lisa Barone at Oneida, she will do you a fantastic job and definitely guide you in the right direction based on your needs. Let Oneida design the ducting and you won't come away disappointed. The design service is free if you purchase a system from them. I have done it twice and would definitely do it again if I had to.
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Old 06-23-2018, 11:44 AM
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+1 for Bruce's comments on having Oneida do the total design. A powerful dust collector with poorly designed ductwork will surely disappoint you. Oneida will design a setup for your particular needs. I can highly recommend their products and design help.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:29 AM
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I have the Oneida 5HP Pro Hi Vac in my main shop which is designed for CNC machines, and a 2HP V-System in my smaller shop. While the dust collector itself is of great importance, the design and sizing of your ducting can make or break the overall performance of your system. Contact Lisa Barone at Oneida, she will do you a fantastic job and definitely guide you in the right direction based on your needs. Let Oneida design the ducting and you won't come away disappointed. The design service is free if you purchase a system from them. I have done it twice and would definitely do it again if I had to.
I actually talked to Lisa and decided to spring and just buy the 5hp high vacuum collecting system. Hopefully will ship this week. I still need to figure out my piping and how I am going to do that. I wish there was someplace local I could get the stuff but she said to stay clear of HVAC pipe. Has anyone every used sch 40 PVC? I know it might be overkill but if I forget a fitting or need something I would rather go right down the road to a store than pay for shipping and waiting.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:39 AM
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Just to inform anyone else who would be in my situation.....
I have a 5x10 panther with a vac bed. Sadly, that building is single phase so I have to run the hurricane pumps to vac hold down. As the system works well on most, I always seem to get production work with small parts. I know i could tab them in but then I would have to clean up 105,000 parts which would add time and I don't think my customer wants to pay for that. So as I was talking to Lisa, the two systems were on the shelf were a gorilla and the the 5 hp high vac set up. We went with the 5hp high vac set up because if i find it is sucking the small parts into my system, I can choke it with a blast door to prevent that from happening. The gorilla has a VFD drive so if I try to do the same thing, it would think it was a smaller orifice and would speed up. Also, I plan on buying another table soon and the 5hp high vac is better suited for two tables than the gorilla. I am going to run 8" pipe out of the collector and choke it down to the 4 as I go. I may make a new adapter on the machine so it can handle a 6" flex hose but haven't gotten that far yet.
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Old 06-25-2018, 12:16 PM
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I totally get the "suck the parts up" thing...experienced that yesterday when a couple of tabs were too brittle when I used a profile path to cut out a 3.5" circle opening rather than a pocketing path. My 2HP Pro (predecessor to the original Gorilla series) had no problem grabbing those 2.5" round circles of 3/4" thick material and sending them along their way to the bin under the cyclone. Fortunately, those were scraps. It would be totally no fun for someone to lose "real" parts that way! But that's the conundrum. Excellent dust collection is important for many reasons including our health and that means the most airflow you can provide for best results. (moving air is what does the deed, not "suction") But at the same time, something that's not held down strong enough is going to go flying... ;)
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